Posted by Bible Probe on July 01, 2005 at 10:09:35:
In Reply to: The Truth (Bibles printed since about 1960) posted by Bible Probe on July 01, 2005 at 10:07:04:
It is not a matter of preference. It's a matter of Satan conning us into thinking both are the same. And conning us into thinking they are easier to read, and therefore a matter of preference. When they are not.
The meaning is not always kept intact. Plus, look at the "fruits" they have produced. Some of these new translations are not only watered down, but their serious outright omissions can have very lasting consequences to many souls.
Between 1700 and 1900, The greatest missionary work in church history occurred. This alone tells us that the KJV is the true Word of God because of "the fruits" it produced. On the other hand, look at the fruits these new so-called "dynamic equivalent" versions of the Bible have produced (abortionists, rampant homosexuality, and legislators and judges who back those things - Columbine?).
Hort and Westcott were the two Cambridge professors who were the driving force behind the Revised Version of 1881 which was a replacement of the pure texts and not a revision of the language of the King James. Westcott and Hort were not only Fathers in the Angelican church. But, according to numerous historians and New Age researchers, appear to be among the Fathers of the modern channeling movement. Channeling and Spiritualism is New Age...
All of the other newer Bible versions, such as the NIV, NASB, etc. are based upon another manuscr1pt family known as the Alexandrian Manuscr1pt family which was put together by Origen of Alexandria, Egypt in about the 2nd century. Most scholars agree Origen was a heretic because of his denial of essential doctrines.
The two best renditions of the Bible that have had the least amount of change are the King James and the older versions of the Douay Reims, Catholic Bible. The original King James Bible is the Authorized Version of 1611 (AV). This Bible does a good job in translating the ancient Hebrew texts. The KJV AV is relatively free from bias and is widely accepted by English speaking Protestants.
This manuscr1pt family behind the KJV is called the Traditional or Majority text because over 99% of the manuscr1pts that have ever been found support and back this text. Scholars have discovered 5,255 pieces of manuscript evidence. Its been said that Of these, 5,210 of them support the Traditional text behind that of the KJV! That’s why it is called the MAJORITY text! That is 99%! Most important vis-a-vis credibility is that these manuscripts come from all over the known world of the day, not from any central location. And 99% agree with each other.
The Textus Receptus (received text) from which the King James Bible came can be traced clear back to Antioch, Syria, where the disciples were first called Christians and where Paul and Barnabas taught the word of God for a whole year (Acts 11:26). Erasmus gathered many of these documents on his travels himself. The text for these new bibles Hort and Wescott took from finds in Alexandria, Egypt, and from Rome.
The Latin Vulgate Bible, translated by St. Jerome from the Septuagint Cannon (LXX) of the Old Testament, is considered the "official" Bible of the Catholic Church.
Probably the most important figure in the renaissance of learning and religion was Erasmus. He traveled around Europe's great learning centers, such as Oxford, Cambridge, Paris, Rome and others. He left his mark in history as the editor of the first published Greek New Testament printed in 1516"
Barry Burton says: "The vast majority of Greek manuscr1pts agree together. They have been passed down thru the centuries by true Bible-believing Christians. In 1516 Erasmus compiled, edited, and printed the Greek 'Textus Receptus'. This is the text that the Protestants of the Reformation KNEW to be the Word of God (inerrant and infallible). The text Erasmus chose had an outstanding history in the Greek, the Syrian, and the Waldensian Churches, and ... it constituted an irresistible argument for and proof of God's providence.
Now, the truth about Erasmus. The truth about Erasmus is that he was first a Roman Catholic monk who was later ordained and became a Roman Catholic priest, who opposed Luther and the Reformation, was offered by the Pope himself the high Roman Catholic church position of cardinal, refused to leave the Church of Rome and always freely submitted his judgments to the decisions of the Roman Church.
LOOK AT THE BELOW EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENCES:
Let's look in a 'modern' version of the Bible, at Luke 2:33.
Starting in Luke 2:27 Simeon has gone into the temple to see the baby Jesus (who is with Joseph and Mary). Again, depending on the particular 'modern' version, in verse 33, it will say something similar to:
" ... and his FATHER and mother were amazed at the things which were spoken of him" [i.e. of Jesus].
his father" was amazed at the things which were spoken of him?!
The father of Jesus was NOT Joseph! Jesus' father was God!
Now, let's look in the Authorized King James Bible. The KJV has the correct reading; in Luke 2:33 it says:
"And JOSEPH and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him".
For a 'modern' version ( NIV, NASV, RSV etc.) to say Joseph was Jesus' father is blasphemy!
The Authorized King James says:
"For the Son of man is come TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST."
This one verse, which summarizes Jesus' entire mission to earth, is either ignored in 'new' versions; or it is put in brackets casting doubt on it! This verse contains a KEY piece of Christian doctrine.
Turn to 1st Peter 4:1.
In a 'modern' version it says: "... Christ suffered ..."
In your Authorized King James Bible the full reading is quoted as:
"... Christ suffered FOR US."
Notice the last two words give the FULL meaning. Leaving out "for us" misses the point entirely!
A 'modern' version will NOT tell you how! (in Colossians 1:14). It says (of Jesus):
"in whom we have redemption ..."
The full Christian doctrine is only included in the King James reading of the same verse. Properly stated, it says (of Jesus):
"In whom we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD ..."
With no shedding of blood -- there is NO remission of sins. Leaving out "the blood" misses a key point of doctrine (and leaves us in our sins).
The Lord's prayer, taught to us by Jesus, and recorded in Luke 11:2-4 of the KJV, is as follows:
"... Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil."
Look at Luke 11:2-4 in a 'modern' version and re-read the Lord's prayer. The wording will be similar to:
"... Father, hallowed be Thy name. Thy Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins, for we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation".
This modern version states "Father" but then leaves out "... WHICH ART IN HEAVEN ...".
You don't know who you are praying to, your Father in heaven, or to Satan!
This modern version also leaves out "THY WILL BE DONE, AS IN HEAVEN, SO IN EARTH".
By leaving out the fact that we are praying to our Father WHOSE WILL IS DONE IN HEAVEN, this 'modern' version is re-directing your prayer away from God and toward someone or something else (in another place).
Look at it again. There is a major omission in the last half of verse 4.
Verse 4 states: "And lead us not into temptation". But this verse then leaves out: "... BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL ..."
NOW FOR THE REALLY BIG STUFF
The NASB teaches in John 5:29 that we are saved by doing ‘good deeds’ Rather than doing the one good thing of trusting Christ as Saviour - and then receiving His Grace!
The NKJV teaches that it is ‘difficult’ to be saved in Matt. 7:14!
The NIV teaches that Jesus SINNED when you read Mark 3:5 and Matthew 5:22!
The NIV does away with Lucifer! There is no Lucifer in the NIV!
Worse than that, the NIV declares that ‘the morning star’ is the that fell and was cut down and did weaken the nations, not Lucifer!
When we read Revelation 22:16 we see that theMorning star is Jesus!
Why we were spared by the gift of the Authorized King James Version:
Psalm 12:6-7 says, "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."
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