Palestinians talking about Civil War. That's a novel idea.

Posted by Bible Probe on September 24, 2006 at 17:53:53:

Not that I want any innocent civilian to get hurt, I am not against belligerent terrorists wiping out other terrorists who are our enemies, and Israel's enemies... Let them "duke it out."

Where can I send my money to help innocent Palestinian civilians move to a peaceful country? I'd urge all those innocent Arab civilians to leave the West Bank, Gaza and Israel now. Go to Jordan, where most people there are Palestinians, and begin a new life. You can be a model citizen and good Muslim there. Tunnel into Jordan if you have to. Alternatively, take over Syria. Claim Syria belongs to the Palestinians! The world will believe it! Just demand that your fellow Muslims in Jordan or Syria feed you, cloth you and give you free medical attention; as the Israelis have. /s/ Steve, BibleProbe.com

Abbas to give Hamas last chance before dissolving PA
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Four Palestinian armed groups on Sunday threatened to target any Palestinian government that recognizes Israel's right to exist and attacked Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas for "succumbing" to US pressure.

The latest threat came as Abbas was preparing to travel to the Gaza Strip for another round of talks with PA Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh over the formation of a joint Hamas-Fatah government.

Abbas is demanding that the political program of the proposed government recognize Israel and honor all previous agreements signed between the Palestinians and Israel. Hamas leaders have rejected Abbas's demand, saying they would never join a government that recognizes Israel and the Oslo Accords.

PA officials told The Jerusalem Post that Abbas was scheduled to arrive in the Gaza Strip on Monday to resume talks with Hamas's Haniyeh about the possibility of forming a unity government. According to the officials, this would be Abbas's final attempt to persuade Hamas to change its policies before he dissolves the Hamas-led government and calls early elections.

"President Abbas will give Hamas one last chance," said Nabil Amr, a Fatah legislator and adviser to Abbas. "At this stage, all options are open and the door remains open for the formation of a unity government." Amr and other Fatah officials said they did not rule out the possibility that they would initiate a no-confidence vote in parliament against the Hamas-led cabinet if the national unity negotiations failed. They are hoping that such a move would succeed, since more than 20 Hamas legislators are in Israeli prisons.

Abbas said over the weekend that his efforts to establish a unity government had "gone back to zero" and accused Hamas of violating an agreement he had reached with Haniyeh earlier this month. Abbas, who was speaking to reporters in Cairo after meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, dismissed reports that he was considering establishing a Fatah-controlled emergency cabinet.

"Relations between Fatah and Hamas are very bad," said Ahmed Abdel Rahman, a senior Fatah official closely associated with Abbas. "Hamas is now talking about civil war and this is very worrying. Hamas must realize that there is no other alternative but to accept a political program that would win the backing of the international community."

PA chief negotiator Saeb Erekat accused Hamas of scuttling efforts to form a unity government. "Shortly after reaching an agreement with President Abbas, Hamas leaders began issuing statements that violated the agreement and embarrassed him," he said. "They made these statements at a time when the president was trying to convince the world to accept the national unity government."

Hussein al-Sheikh, a top Fatah operative in the West Bank, said his party was not asking Hamas to abandon its ideology or recognize Israel. "No one is asking the brothers in Hamas to recognize Israel's right to exist," he explained. "We're only asking them to endorse a realistic and pragmatic policy that would be acceptable to the international community so that we could end the current financial crisis."

Sheikh reminded Hamas that Fatah never recognized Israel's right to exist even after the signing of the Oslo Accords. "Fatah never met as a party and decided to recognize Israel," he pointed out. "It was the PLO that recognized Israel, and we are part of the PLO. We're not asking Hamas to change its political program and internal policies."

Yusef Harb, another senior Fatah leader in the West Bank, said that holding early elections was the only way to resolve the crisis in the PA territories. "Hamas is responsible for the failure of the unity government talks," he said. "Hamas changed its position regarding the government because of a power struggle between their leadership in the Gaza Strip and their representatives abroad."

Read entire Article at the Jerusalem Post:
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Falwell: Hillary Clinton beats devil in drawing No votes

RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- The Rev. Jerry Falwell acknowledged on Sunday saying that if Hillary Rodham Clinton were the Democrats' presidential nominee in 2008, it would motivate conservative evangelical Christians to oppose her more than if the devil himself were running.

Falwell said in a telephone interview that his comments to several hundred pastors and religious activists at the "Value Voter Summit" conference were "totally tongue-in-cheek."

"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate," Falwell said at a breakfast session Friday in Washington. "I hope she's the candidate, because nothing will energize my (constituency) like Hillary Clinton," he said. "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."

Clinton press secretary Philippe Reines said Sunday, "Working for someone who believes in the Golden Rule, we're not going to engage in such vitriolic discourse -- but it seems that a new low has been reached in demonizing political opponents."

Falwell told the AP that he did not intend to demonize the former first lady. "That was totally tongue-in-cheek and everyone in the building knew that and everyone laughed," Falwell said.

Falwell said religious conservatives do not favor Clinton for several reasons, but mostly because she is pro-choice on abortion, "the cutting-edge issue for social conservatives."

"I just think that she has enough of a record before our people now to bring most of them to the polls," Falwell said.

The Rev. Barry Lynn, director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said, "I don't know why Jerry Falwell always has to drag politics into the gutter."

Lynn, whose advocacy group scrutinizes the religious right and was monitoring last week's conference, added, "Maybe the devil made him do it."

Attendees also were assured during the prayer breakfast that God would preserve a Republican majority in Congress.

Falwell would not say what he thought would happen in 2008 if Clinton were not the nominee.

"In '08, I think that's too far ahead to know what's going to happen in the domestic and foreign policy issues," Falwell said in the interview.

"In my opinion, the big issue then will be what the big issue is today, and that is national security and the war on terrorism at home and abroad. I don't think anybody doubts that the Republicans have a better record and a better commitment to national security than the Democrats do," Falwell said.

His remarks were first reported in Sunday's Los Angeles Times.

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