Posted by Bible Probe on February 15, 2006 at 16:11:18:
In Reply to: True religion posted by Anonymous on February 15, 2006 at 16:08:13:
Muslim:
This is your dilemma, and you better get it straight, or you may just end up following Muhammad to he-ll.
First, you say you believe Jesus is a Great Prophet, yet you don't believe what He said.
Jesus said; "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins". John 8:24
Second, Muhammad was not even a nice huiman being, yet you are willing to mindlessly follow him to he-ll. Muhammad, raped, murdered, married a 6-year old girl, and had everyone killed who disagreed with him. In short, Muhammad was an 7th century terrorist. Muhammad admitted twice in the Qur'an he could do no miracles to show any divinity, AND Muhammad was a Non-Prophet; he simply made NO prophecies. And Muhammad told the biggest of lies that you better come to terms with. That is Muhammad lied and said Jesus did not die on the cross as an atonement for your sins.
NOW--WATCH HOW THIS TIES IN WITH YOUR IMAM and MULLAH LIES THAT THE TORAH AND NEW TESTAMENT ARE CORRUPTED. THis is important, because it appears your mullahs and imams are in collusion with Muhammad and satan to drag you off to hell.
In the years 625-632 AD, Muhammad taught YOU that your Allah confirmed the Jewish Torah and told you to read them and believe them. See: Suras 2:87, 29:46, 32:23, 5:44, 6:154, 6:155. Your Muhammad also told you to believe and read the Christian Gospels (Injeel) (Sura 2:87, 5:46, 5:68, 29:46 and 43:63).
So, if the Torah and Gospel were correct in 625-632 A.D. then all the errors and contradictions vis-a-vis the Gospels and Torah in your Qur'an shown below make your Qur'an false. All 4 Gospels said that Jesus died on the cross.
Now the biggie. Something your lying imams and mullahs think they can slide by you.
Subtract 632 AD when Muhammd died like a normal man after being poisoned --from 350 AD when the two copies of the Christian Gospels, one located in the Vatican (Codex Vaticanus 325-350 AD) and the other located in the British Museum (Codex Siniaticus 350 AD) date to. AD indicates After Christ. Guess what that is these Gospels date to 282 years before Muhammad died. AND WE CAN STILL READ THEM TODAY.
"They" could not have changed the Christian Gospels after Muhammad, since there are around 5,300 manuscripts of the whole or part of the Greek text of the New Testament (Injeel) pre-dating Muhammad still in existence. Worldwide, there are 24,800 copies of these original manuscripts.
The Christian Gospels were written between 20-45 years after Jesus ascended bodily into heaven in front of many, many witnesses.
So if Muhammad said they were correct in 632 A.D., and what are in the Museums have not changed. Then it is impossible for the Christian Gospels to have been changed/corrupted.
Your dilemma then dear Muslim is this. If you say the Christian Gospels have changed/been corrupted. Then you just called Muhammad a liar.
Muslims should note that nowhere in the Qur'an there is there even a suggestion that the Biblical text has been altered or corrupted. The word "tahrif" is never used with reference to the Bible itself.
Actually it is the Qur'an, that cannot even be pieced together.
This same quality of transmission cannot be said of the Islamic Qur'an. The Islamic Qur'an was written down from 3rd and 4th hand accounts; and from a few thoughts written on scrap papers --and compiled over 150 years after Muhammad died in 632 A.D. The oldest Qur'an dates from around 790 A.D. (after Jesus), and it is in the British Library. That's 158 years after Muhammad’s death.
Muslims often claim that the manuscript of the Qur'an housed in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey is one of the oldest sources. Muslims say it dates from around 650 A.D. There is an insurmountable problem with this. This document is written in Kufic (also known as al-Khatt al-Kufi) script. Coins in the British Museum show that the first coins using the Kufic script date from the mid to end of the 8th century (750-800 A.D.). The only script used during and after Muhammad's days was the Jazm script.
The Samarkand (aka: Othman Koran) manuscript in the Soviet Library in Tashkent, Uzbekistan also uses the Kufic script, indicating late 8th century. Many believe it is the oldest in existence. Only About one-third of the original survives.
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