Muslims Cannot come to terms with an Only Begotten Son

Posted by Bible Probe on July 01, 2005 at 05:14:00:

Muslims cannot come to terms with a "begotten" Son. Begotten means "to come from", NOT made. We are speaking of He, the "I Am", the one who created not just you, but the IDEA of a you, and a place in time and space for you. Christians can come to terms with begotten much easier than Muslims, because we have a spirit of Truth within us. Muslims are endowed with the "spirit of confusion".

God needs to perform no biological act in order to be the father. That is a rule you have made. That is satan speaking. That's the same satan who promises 72-black eyed virgins right away --if only you kill some innocent people.

Those who have the most problem with an idea of God also have no concept of the mystical. Think of a magician and the things a magician seems to be able to do. God, can not only do those things. But God can REALLY do those things and far more.

Now get way outside the box. Think of an entity who could simply "SPEAK" the physical world into existence. You have no clear understanding of this speaking into existence, and neither do I.

Begin all your reasoning by thinking of God as spirit, and not flesh and blood. But because He is God, the "Prime Mover" He can surely enter this dimension in flesh and bones also.

BUT because God walks in and created all dimensions --including those we have NO knowledge of -- we will always be at a disadvantage when trying to get a real idea in our carnal minds about the I Am. It is lucky for us that at one time in world history, God showed us a part of Himself. And that part was Jesus, full of honesty, love and grace. Able to do anything He so desired.

In simplistic terms - the programmer can do anything He wants because the programmer creates out of nothing. The programmer writes all the rules. In humanistic terms - today we can clone sheep. We who have been created can copy something. So, why wouldn't the creator not only be able to copy something but do it in such a way that it is one with Himself?

Your thinking about God not being able to impregnate Mary simply because it is a physical thing shows that you have a "humanistic" view of God.

Think WAY, WAY outside the box. Nothing, and I mean nothing - especially something so simple as overshadowing a maiden, so that the maiden carries the seed of love, hope and forgiveness --which was Jesus --is in no way impossible with God. For an entity who can speak the world into existence --can likewise speak a pregnancy into existance.

We don't understand the concept of "overshadowing" because we humans cannot do it. But then again, we don't understand electricity -- but we know it is there.

For an example of the Christian understanding of Trinity, and the Son as the only mediator between the Father and us - - AND --One with the Father ---read this true Near Death Experience HERE

For an example of the "mystical" and a real modern day miracle read about this Muslim Theologian's encounter with Jesus in Iran:
HERE

EARLY CHURCH DEFINES JESUS AS ONE WITH THE FATHER BY THE WORD "homoousius"

When Constantine defeated Emperor Licinius in 323 AD he ended the persecutions against the Christian church. Shortly afterwards Christians faced a trouble from within: the Arian controversy began and threatened to divide the church. The problem began in Alexandria, it started as a debate between the bishop Alexander and the presbyter (pastor, or priest) Arius. Arius proposed that if the Father begat the Son, the latter must have had a beginning, that there was a time when he was not, and that his substance was from nothing like the rest of creation. The Council of Nicea, a gathering similar to the one described in Acts 15:4-22, condemned the beliefs of Arius and wrote the first version of the now famous creed proclaiming that the Son was "one in being with the Father" by use of the Greek word "homoousius."

The Nicene Creed introduced the word "homoousious" or "consubstantial" meaning "of one substance." This word was not invented at the Council. Eusebius writes that some of the "most learned and distinguished of the ancient bishops had made use of consubstantial in treating of the divinity of the Father and the Son".

Of interest about the excommunicated Arius. A few years after the Council of Nicea, Arius discovered a new way to interpret the word "homoousius" that agreed with his doctrines. He then asked to be readmitted to communion, but the Church refused. Arius then appealed to the Emperor. Emperor Constantine's favorite sister, Constantia, on her deathbed, implored Constantine to support Arius and he did so. A date was set for the forcing of the Church to readmit Arius, but while he was waiting for Constantine to arrive Arius stopped to relieve himself and his bowels burst and he died. (See Arians of the 4th Century, Chapter III, Section II by John Henry Newman)

Of interest to me is how similar DNA is to a computer program.

Read this Near Death Experience, where a woman actually catches/glimpses in a small way her life being given back by THE WORD of God. I am struck with the similarities of a computer program - but one that transcends dimensions HERE

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